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Podcast: Designing Open Democracy: "Trust, a concept analysis" (After: Fake News Trivia) (2019-12-11 Wednesday)

Hi All Members of Designing Open Democracy,

Before the year ends, this is a gathering about how the year in democracy has ended, as well as to discuss what the future may hold for democracies around the world.

Initially, our guest Alexar Pendashteh will present his analysis and musings on the nature of trust and how society conceptualises and acts upon it.

This will be followed by a group discussion, so don't forget to bring all your strong opinions with you!

After that you are welcome to join a Fake vs Real News trivia game!

Parties needs a method for policy precedence flow with policy development tools. Observation of a real discussion problem included

In this discussion in pirate party, it appears that mitra wants specific policy stance, due to ranking pirate party as negative in environmental policy.

However pirate party members countered that their current policy already broadly covers her concern. And that the scorecard did not take this into account, instead trying to look for specific answers.

A policy development tool could perhaps address this dynamic by relying on how the law covers many situation without having specific wording for every situation via the usage of "precedence".

What's your thought?

Maybe there needs to be a way to have a mindmap of how each party policy flows onto specific decision. Where if a policy changes, the connection become fainter, to indicate that we need to revaluate if it still hold for a specific question.

The song that overthrew the President of Africa's largest country - يوم الشعب #لا_للعهدة_الخامسة

This is a five-minute song from Algeria. Some of you would know that there has just been a mini-revolution: a very infirm 82-year-old President Boutéflika had won a fifth mandate as President. He seemed so sick that he would be incapable of carrying on with his duties. Boutéflika has been in power since 1999!

After massive street demonstrations, he tendered his resignation.

Apart from the suffering of our Indigenous compatriots, anything we suffer in our country is 20 times worse in Algeria.

I want you all to see this video. You will see that nowhere is any there any expression of anger, only of determination and good will.

Make Your Own Democracy (Wednesday, May 15, 2019 in Melbourne)

This recording was from a joint event between Designing Open Democracy and Melbourne Geek Night.

Meetup link:

This will be a series of special joint presentations with Melbourne Geek Night and Designing Open Democracy about innovative democratic startups growing in Melbourne.

One of the presentation in this event will be by Danny Johnson on his MYO Democracy platform on how he is developing an open-source platform to assist in supporting community decision making.

The second presentation by Steve Guardiani of Melbourne Business Centre is geared towards anyone interested in starting (or growing) a business and the unexpected challenges that may hit you! Steve will deliver a candid talk about some of his experiences and will include:

  • Getting burnt with SEO
  • How to lose $5,000 in 3 days with Adwords, and enjoy $0 ROI
  • How I got sued for $10,000 for trying to follow the Google Guidelines

Designing Open Democracy - "New Models of Democracy" (Brisbane)



With the looming 2019 Federal Election, Designing Open Democracy would like to invite everyone in Brisbane to come along to discover the democracy innovations that minor parties are adopting to differentiate themselves from the current two major parties in Australia.

In addition, we will also be inviting along a few democracy experts to help present about various aspect of democracy and models that could be adopted to help make the Australian government more representative of the will of its citizens.

This event will be streamed.

Many Thanks to ThoughtWorks Brisbane for the facility provided

20th March 2019: Starting a Democracy Forum / Think Tank - Is it needed? What's required for one?

Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 6:00 PM to Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 8:00 PM AEDT

Melbourne Business Centre

Hi All Members of the Designing Open Democracy community

During the last gathering, everyone introduced themselves and a common consensus emerged on a desire to investigate the possibility of starting a officially registered organisation for democracy research and advocacy.

So this meeting we will be coming together to work out if we need to and to get things started on this idea.

Also I would like to get people to think about what it would take to get a democracy focused panel into a major event. Here is one food for thought... a discussion panel called "Politics In Moderation" where we could perhaps invite Tony from Q&A to discuss on how he moderates, along with other debate moderators.

Also much thanks to Melbourne Business Centre for assistance in providing a quiet meeting space for us

Date: Wednesday the 20th of March 2019 Time: Starting at 6pm Location: Melbourne Business Centre, Level 9, 440 Collins Street, Melbourne Victoria 3000 (

What are the two issues relating to democracy that needs public traction? (The Main Question After the 20th of March 2019 Meeting)

I would like to know before setting up the next Designing Open Democracy meetup.

What are the two issues relating to democracy that needs public traction?

Throw in your ideas and we can use that to shape the next meet!

Brian Khuu

  • We need to get parties and the goverment system to investigate not just their voting system... but focus even more on how their nomination process work. If the nomination process is not democratic, then even with a democratic voting process, the outcome will not be democratic. Garbage in, garbage out.

  • We need to push existing parties to focus on improving their own internal democracy.

Robert Crouch

  • Improving the public trust on the integrity of election oversight processes and audit process. (Who watches the watcher?)
  • How does public emotions effect election outcome? Can this be mitigated?
    • @mofosyne --> @Robert-Crouch I think you be interested in the discussion by Nicolas Gruen (, about how Vox Pop can lead to bad democratic outcome in election due to only getting a short snapshot of the public emotion that may not be a considered opinion of the public.

Kenneth Coghill (Via email)

  1. Submission to APS Review responding to "Priorities for Change", advocating stronger commitment to civil society engagement.
  2. Submission to Open Government Forum urging implementation of Commitment to civil society engagement.

  3. What will block democratic reform?

  4. What are the effect of poverty and inequality in democratic civil engagement?

Carol Campbell (Via Meetup. Slow internet)

  • The effect of Trump on truth, and the knock on effect to true informed Democracy
  • Particularly trust in democratic perticipation having any effect on society

Peter Howard

  • Education focused on the possible alternative democratic approaches. The ongoing research on the level of trust in systems of government around the world shows the Australia has very low levels in trust in particular with our political system. The aim should be to enable people to see alternative ways in which their views could be truly represented.

  • Engagement could be focused on the major issues facing the country. And the technology is available by which everyone in the country could be engaged with a high level of confidence and security. I would also propose using our national broadcasters (ABC and SBS) in a formal role to facilitate the rich conversations on policy.


  1. Stagnant Wages and Union Strength:
  2. Australia has faced stagnant wages for a decade, leading to economic growth favoring capital over wages.
  3. This situation exacerbates inequality and impacts the economy negatively.
  4. The "Change the Rules" campaign by unions aims to counter this by strengthening unions.
  5. Fernandalila emphasizes the need for public support to change industrial relations legislation.

  6. Recycling Crisis:

  7. Australia faces a recycling crisis as other countries, including China, no longer accept our recycling.
  8. Fernandalila calls for a sustainable solution to address the dumping of recycling into landfills.

Extra Question Response: - Fernandalila dismisses the idea that co-operatives can replace unions and asserts the necessity of unions to defend the working class. - She highlights the correlation between union membership and favorable wages/working conditions. - Acknowledges the importance of revitalizing unions and criticizes Australia's laws limiting union activities.

Response to Brian's Clarification: - Fernandalila expresses understanding and notes her interpretation that any relevant issue needing traction can serve as an experiment for democratic participation. - Acknowledges the group's focus on a fair playing field for ideas, highlighting the need for a more equitable and better democracy. - Stresses the importance of bringing together people from opposing political spectrums to push for a fairer game, akin to improving sportsmanship in a football game.

A possible future topic for a Designing Open Democracy Panel: On moderation of a political debate

Here is a possible thought about what to host for the next designing open democracy conference. Maybe have a panel where moderators from various political debates can discuss on their strategies in keeping the peace in a debate.

One person to potentially invite to such an event is Tony from Q&A (His signature quib is "we don't cross examine our questioners", "I'll take that as a comment")